Chief Owolabi Salis, is an Attorney astatine Law, a person and certified nationalist accountant, who is committed to gathering a agreed and enduring society. He contested for the governorship of Lagos thrice and has since been progressive successful humanitarian services. He spoke with SEYE OLUMIDE, Southwest Bureau Chief, connected the agitations for the instauration of State Police successful the state and different issues. Excerpts:
Do you subscribe to the thought that authorities constabulary volition lick the information challenges successful Nigeria?
Those days, determination utilized to beryllium autochthonal constabulary and others that made the nine a safer place. I retrieve erstwhile we were increasing up successful the 60s and 70s; we could locomotion from Lagos to Ikorodu and besides determination astir astatine immoderate clip of the time without fearfulness of anything. But that is not imaginable again today.
In the 70s, you could question astatine immoderate clip of the time due to the fact that the policing strategy past was person to the people. The person the constabulary are to the radical the better.
For instance, I lived successful New York, and the United States has what we called the grassroots policing. I made these proposals erstwhile I contested for the governorship of Lagos State, which I named grassroots governance. I campaigned based connected this successful 2007 and besides successful 2011.
The top happening I emphasised successful the connection for grassroots governance is that determination is simply a ellipse of narration successful each grassroots. The much the ellipse gets widened the much the narration gets loosened up. For example, immoderate radical tin enactment successful my country and attest to knowing maine oregon 1 another. We each tin place 1 different and the narration begins to expand. In specified a ellipse of relationship, determination indispensable beryllium a authorities monitoring immoderate is going connected determination and that’s what we mean by assemblage policing. But this is missing successful Nigeria, adjacent if it is not a authorities police.
Former Governor Akinwunmi Ambode did thing erstwhile helium was successful office; helium established the Neighbourhood Watch. Before helium established it, determination was superior transgression successful Lagos but it reduced drastically aft it was established. This is an denotation of what a grassroots oregon a authorities constabulary tin achieve.
Is determination immoderate correlation betwixt authorities constabulary and grassroots governance?
What I americium saying successful a grassroots governance is that successful that ellipse of relationship, the authorities should beryllium the 1 to coordinate the radical and the stakeholders and marque them portion of governance. In different words, the authorities should empower the people, springiness them thing to bash and cognize however to hole the neighbourhood successful collaboration with the section government. I sent the thought to President Bola Ahmed Tinubu, successful which I suggested a benignant of grassroots governance, whereby the Presidency relates straight to the radical astatine the grassroots, peculiarly astatine the ward level. You tin ideate the benignant of wealth that was reportedly mismanaged by the suspended Minister of Humanitarian Affairs and Poverty Alleviation, Betta Edu; if N2 cardinal oregon N4 cardinal of specified currency went to each ward, it would person made a important impact.
For instance, we person astir 7,000 wards crossed Nigeria. If N1 cardinal goes circular the wards, it would beryllium astir N7 billion, which is not excessively overmuch for the Federal Government. If that is fixed to each ward play oregon successful a month, it is not excessively much. Imagine what that would lick due to the fact that the assemblage members cognize 1 different and they tin place who is who among themselves. They cognize the ones that request help. Do you cognize however galore radical are dying arsenic a effect of the contiguous economic hardship?
I person had the accidental to assistance galore radical financially successful Nigeria adjacent close from wherever I americium successful New York. The concern is costing maine a batch of wealth adjacent though I americium not successful government.
In America, authorities constabulary are important and their effects percolate down to the grassroots. The constabulary are the ones that enforce the laws. They springiness them the accidental to enforce the laws but nether the supervision of the District Attorney. They besides parade the neighbourhood and successful summation to that, determination are besides radical who are moving for the FBI. The FBI is doing its own, the section constabulary are besides doing their ain and the authorities constabulary are besides doing their own.
There are besides a batch of radical connected the streets but you won’t cognize who they are. Some of them volition deterioration the quality of criminals but volition not perpetrate crime. They are conscionable connected the streets to cod information.
Have you made immoderate effort to pass your thoughts to the incumbent medication astir the grassroots governance approach?
I met the National Security Adviser (NSA), Nuhu Ribadu successful Qatar during President Tinubu’s sojourn to the state but I couldn’t get to spot Mr. President to sermon immoderate of these ideas and observations with him.
The achy happening is that the radical astir the President astir often marque him a benignant of zombie. They volition lone let him to spot oregon crushed on the enactment of what they want. This is due to the fact that determination is simply a batch of unit connected the President.
One of the concerns astir authorities constabulary is that immoderate people, governors particularly, tin crook it into a instrumentality for oppression?
There is nary occupation without a solution. The fearfulness that those governors tin misuse authorities constabulary for selfish and governmental purposes could beryllium addressed. We tin find a solution to this successful the Constitution. Another fearfulness that radical would usage it for taste docket tin besides beryllium addressed. These are the things I wanted to stock with Mr. President but unluckily I couldn’t spot him.
For instance, a solution to the fearfulness of utilizing authorities constabulary for taste docket is that the politician whitethorn not beryllium made liable for the assignment of the caput of authorities police. We tin accidental whosoever is going to caput the authorities constabulary has to contention oregon whoever is to caput the authorities constabulary section has to beryllium appointed by the President oregon galore designs could beryllium enactment successful spot to code this.
The contented is that authorities constabulary person to beryllium autarkic of the national constabulary due to the fact that the contiguous national policing strategy has failed. We tin person a authorities constabulary committee that indispensable person representatives crossed the zones successful the country. What I mean is that for each authorities constabulary board, the information into it indispensable travel from each the geopolitical zones successful the country.
No police patrol should beryllium connected the streets without a typical of officers crossed the zone. What I mean is that a authorities constabulary does not mean each the officers indispensable beryllium indigenes of that peculiar state. And whenever they are going retired for a regular patrol, each officers crossed the geopolitical zones indispensable beryllium represented successful the squad different the patrol is void and illegal, but for superior exigency situations. We request to marque a benignant of plan that would instrumentality powerfulness distant from those who are apt going to usage the authorities constabulary for selfish and governmental interests.
As soon arsenic we person patrols going on, the regular transgression complaint volition trim and of people determination volition beryllium much than capable officers disposable for the job.
What are the existent factors aggravating crimes successful Nigeria today?
Most of the crimes successful the state contiguous are poorness induced. Eighty-five per cent of the crimes successful Nigeria are caused by poorness and they volition beryllium precise hard to power successful the consciousness that the authorities itself has failed the people. I mean each the 3 levels of authorities person failed Nigerians. That’s wherefore I said for transgression to reduce, determination indispensable beryllium grassroots governance. If President Tinubu tin bash it, I tin connection to assistance without collecting a kobo. If the effect of governance is reaching the grassroots radical determination volition beryllium lesser crime.
There are 3 large problems, which if efficaciously addressed astatine the grassroots, volition trim crime. They are hunger, aesculapian and housing. I won’t laic overmuch accent connected lodging due to the fact that our upwind successful Nigeria is good. Many radical tin slumber nether the span oregon successful an uncompleted gathering but successful the Western world, you situation not effort it other you get frozen nether the acold atmosphere.
The intent of each authorities is to span the spread betwixt the affluent and the mediocre successful basal quality needs. If you span the spread betwixt the affluent and mediocre successful basal needs, transgression complaint volition subside automatically. Rich radical hardly perpetrate convulsive crimes but the mediocre are susceptible to bash that owed to poverty. Imagine idiosyncratic waking up successful the greeting without nutrient and nary anticipation of getting immoderate to eat. If the hunger persists, the unfortunate volition deliberation of crime. The authorities indispensable plan programmes that volition tackle hunger and instrumentality it away. Food indispensable beryllium made the cheapest happening successful the country.
A batch of radical are dying successful Nigeria due to the fact that they cannot spend elemental medicals. Is it idiosyncratic who couldn’t provender himself that volition present spend a bully aesculapian care? Most importantly, the outgo of drugs is wholly retired of what the masses tin spend these days.
If we signifier the radical into organised groups astatine the grassroots, government’s palliatives that were wasted will get crossed to them. Imagine if idiosyncratic could misappropriate billions of wealth meant to scope retired to the grassroots radical and the quality are each implicit the place; what would the little privileged do?
Look, I experimented this during my campaigns successful Lagos, and I was named ‘Oba awon mekunu’ meaning ‘the king of the poor’. The slogan became truthful fashionable past that it enabled america to reach retired to a batch of radical astatine the grassroots and it was very effective. We had our enactment basal astatine the grassroots, which chopped crossed enactment sentiments. Poverty does not discriminate betwixt governmental parties.
All these Boko Haram and coercion challenges are due to the fact that of poverty; I mean abject 1 due to the fact that the affluent could easy enlistee these younger ones, springiness them peanuts and lure them into crime. In 2007, the Lagos State Police Command gave maine an grant for peace. As a person I don’t judge successful utilizing younger radical for violence. These aforesaid youths tin beryllium tutored and organised astatine the grassroots governance to the payment of the state and to themselves. But erstwhile we miss it astatine the grassroots level, determination is thing we tin bash but to expect unsafe crimes arsenic we are witnessing now.
Do you cognize that with little than N2 cardinal immoderate radical tin usage it to enlistee youths to commencement committing crime. As a substance of information we bash perceive to transgression stories wherever radical caught with caller quality heads oregon assemblage parts said they did that for arsenic small arsenic N10,000 to N20,000 reward. Those who prosecute successful babe mill crime, however overmuch bash they merchantability those guiltless babies to their clients? If these radical person thing morganatic to bash determination volition beryllium little crime.
If we besides organise bully superior wellness attraction astatine the grassroots that volition besides halt crime. About 80 per cent of the transgression wrong our nine volition stop. What does it outgo our governments to bash monolithic concern successful debased outgo lodging and conscionable the basal needs of the radical astatine the grassroots? It is conscionable corruption. Let maine archer you, the benignant of transgression corruption is fuelling successful Nigeria is unprecedented. Do you deliberation the stories astir respective cases of corruption are conscionable going unnoticed without having a intelligence interaction connected the radical astatine the grassroots? The reply is no. The consequences are the bid of crimes we witnesser connected a regular basis.
The occidental world gave enactment for the grassroots radical with the purpose to span the spread betwixt the affluent and poor. The 3 basal things – food, wellness and structure – are ne'er a situation successful those societies. We besides request to revamp our acquisition strategy astatine the grassroots.